I

saw the most vivid, projectile shit I've ever seen in my life.

Right.

How are you missing, man? I remember.

How? I had a real bad day.

It was 2024.

I did Valencia Marathon.

yeah what confused me for ages before I realised I'm being thick as shit is I was like why didn't they win then it was because US won because the collective loops together

No, I reckon, well, I think London, you may be, well, what was your honest reflection of London?

Overkicked it, 100%.

Told that to Mario about this block.

I was like, we did from January 1st till...

And how much rest did I really have in between that and CIM? So not much going in.

And then also I'd done the T100.

So from the 14th of December to the 1st of January, I still ran a marathon.

Oh,

18 plus.

Aussie dollars.

Yeah.

So that's what, 12 quid? Yeah.

For, for a bowl of jasmine rice.

That's bleak, man.

And it was not big.

Yeah, I would agree there.

You will continue to grow that audience, and that could potentially be a way where it does become your life for the long term.

Yeah.

I, I saw that.

It was a good question.

I think that is...

There is definitely a timeline for most people I think in social media, because it's just more like you're constantly having to seek validation from other people in order to make money, which, you know, it...

There's so many benefits to social media, like I'll never...

Mm

Mm

...

but those opportunities don't always align with becoming the best athlete possible.

Um, and so, like, for, I mean, for example, like, I, is Sydney the best timing for me in terms of my running right now? Probab- probably not, but it's such an amazing opportunity.

Who knows when I'm gonna get something like this again.

I've gotta t- you know, you've sometimes gotta take things like that.

So, like, I think I'm still navigating that.

I've done a couple of trips like that and I'm just like, "How the hell do I go back to economy after this?" Um, where do you think the next, like, two to five years is going to go for this world you're in?

Oh, mate.

And, like, you were just battling it.

And so I got out the water, and- Apparently loads of people DNF'd- Really? ...

for the swim.

Yeah, 'cause they just couldn't deal with it.

Everyone was just hanging onto the, the wakeboards and stuff like that.

It was like carnage.

Yes.

Yeah.

You're worried you're gonna get some waterborne virus.

The weather was so bad, the wind.

So you were s- halfway great.

Coming back, we knew it was bad when there was, like, a super sprint before ours.

So we were walking to, like, check our, our bikes in, and there were, like, three guys at the back of the swim, and they were all next to a buoy, and none of them were moving past the buoy.

They just weren't moving.

Yeah

Yeah.

You know? But I do think that, and I, I definitely know people look at what others are doing a lot.

And the reason...

So I follow 22 people on Strava, and lots of people ask me why, and it's because I used to follow loads of people, and I got so in my head about what other people were doing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, that is what then, like, what those guys are doing is crazy, the volume they're doing, how much dedication they have.

And so yeah, I, like, anyone in that top space is just...

And [laughs] now I am in the s- like, space I am-

Yeah.

You couldn't go outside for longer than an hour a day or you'd get arrested.

I mean, I'm sure I wouldn't, but that was my, uh, that was my program.

So I literally went outside, ran an hour, and s- saw how far I could go each day, essentially.

And then did that for, like, 18 months when the whole of lockdown, um, and then started to, like, look into running a bit more, do some intervals, but nothing, like, serious.

Um, and then when restrictions kind of ended, I did the Brighton Marathon.

So I signed up, um, and that was in 2021 in September, and I did, like, a 3:03.

Why is this period so important?

Mm.

Like, I never thought I'd be in this position, right? So like if someone said to me, "Oh, go and do an ultra or something," I'd have done it 'cause it was fun and like n- I, there was nothing riding on it.

And like when I quit my job in September, I had a couple of months of doing stuff because I was like, "Oh, I'm free.

I can go and do it." And then now, especially after Barca Half, when I did like...

And actually, no to be honest, after Valencia 10K, I realized like actually if I really take it seriously in terms of like proper coaching, I can do some really good, like get a lot quicker, um, and like focus on the road.

And so I definitely did like pre couple of months ago, like was...

I obviously wasn't training optimally.

Mm-hmm.

How was that?

it's not for everyone i don't think it was for me why is that i love running i love running don't get me wrong i love running i need other things in life and it's it's there's nothing there is nothing there but running like there's one petrol station where you can get a mask bar And that's it.

That's it.

There's nothing else.

It's lovely.

It's beautiful.

Lovely scenery.

you first like realize that um boxing