... briefly introduce yourself in whichever way feels right to you.

Thank you very much, [laughs] Julie.

Uh, and thank you both for, uh, the, um, the honor and privilege of, of, of being able to share some of my ideas with you and, uh, the listeners to the Systemic Way.

Um, so yeah, I'm Hugh Palmer, uh, and I'm still getting used to the, uh, the, those other letters, uh, a- attached to my name.

Uh, and as I say, I, I haven't actually graduated formally yet.

I've just got a letter saying that I've, I've got the letters.

Uh, so I, I'm, I'm getting used to that.

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