No, I get that

... meaningful answers, but he's there.

He's answering questions, and somehow I, I think the public is owed something more, particularly since she's made the decision, as she did four years ago, "I'm not gonna debate.

Well, I'm out there talking to people." Yeah, I know some of these, these events.

They're very, you know, uh, the, the event, you know, in, in Prescott was something about, you know, opening up a home for, uh, for, for the elderly.

You know, all very nice, all, all very curated, but you know, the people need to, to know more.

And I'm not saying debates are the be-all and end-all.

That, that, that ends up getting the legislature's role, comes in and writes in how that gets done.

Yep.

Great if you happen to be the owner of an all-electric vehicle, as is Jay Kaufman, who happens to be the sponsor of the bill, who happens to have a, a, a Tesla Cybertruck.

Now, I'm not saying that's his reasoning, but, so the, the, the, the question has been over the years for both Democratic and Republican lawmakers, how do we go ahead and monetize the amount of electricity that people are, are spending? And you, you can't do it by, you know, some plug-in monitor.

So, the pl- plan has been to say, "Okay, maybe once a year you report your miles.

We use a formula to convert that to what that might have been for gasoline, and we charge you." And this ballot measure would say you can't do that.

Understood.

You know, I don't know anybody who's tracking your mileage.

... for that initiative.