We're all on a journey and you're welcome to join us as we seek together to engage in the work of reconciliation that Jesus is all about.

And despite the weather, here you are.

You know, it must have been, was it because of me that you came? Was it me? So we can turn the projector on.

all right that's a that's a very kind of watermelon red slide so i'm from love your neighbor and uh next to me there was my wife lynette and my daughter-in-law rebecca and you're going to be seeing all three of us next weekend and we're going to be running your church-wide conversation for you as a follow-on to the redemptive family church this series so we've been in ministry for 30 plus years we've been working with churches since 1998 and we've learned lots of stuff along the way and the love your neighbor ministry has the privilege of helping whole churches engage with what their mission is from pastors and elders to ministry leaders to everyone who belongs and believes in the mission of the church and we've had a lot of experience in facilitating church-wide conversations.

We've seen the exciting engagement of so many with renewed vision and passion for seeing the transformation of their church and their community.

So we're really excited to be coming along and to be doing this with you as well.

So, I'm gonna just skip over this one and we're gonna go right here.

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It does surprise me a little bit.

It's undoubtedly, undoubtedly more scrutinized now, but...

And unfortunately, as well, I have to say, more questioning around the motivations around decisions.

Less acceptance of the decision just being a human decision made in the moment by somebody who's wanted to do a really good job, works hard day-to-day throughout their entire professional life to be the best possible version of themselves on the field, contributing to the game, delivering good performances.

But if, you know, if they get a decision wrong, which is undoubtedly a decision that's taken with- with, you know, good intentions of trying to get the right call but maybe m- missing the mark in the moment, people will form an opinion that there's something else behind that decision, and there isn't.

Howard, how has that experience helped to inform what you now need to do to further support referees, do you think?

W- we know that the, the job that they do, um, is done under a brighter spotlight than ever with more scrutiny than, than ever.

There's, there's undoubtedly a, a lower level of forgiveness as well if your, you know, if somebody doesn't agree with a decision, then, uh, they're not, th- they're not slow or shy to comment upon that and, and they've got a vehicle now to do so that didn't previously exist and the way that some people do that is pretty inappropriate.