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Howard Paulson

Howard Paulson

Anti-ICE protester and activist from rural western Minnesota; former landscaping business owner; regular guest on the Rational Boomer Podcast known as "Protester Howard."

Sep 29, 2026

speaker_2UNKNOWN
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civic contract
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they they signed 75 million for five years okay it's a private owned prison Everybody was excited because they're going to get more taxes and they're going to have employment and they're going to have this.
34:42
And the next day, Cora Civic turned it around and sold the building and the land back to the federal government.
34:52
And if anybody don't know what that did, I'll explain that one.
34:56
When the federal government owns that fucking land and that building, they pay no real estate taxes.
35:03
They'll still have to pay their water bill and their electric bill and all that.
35:07
But there's, how do you say that? Infrastructure system.

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MikeHOST
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So if Republicans want to stay home because they can't vote for a Democrat, by all means, stay the fuck home.
MikeHOST
44:21
But they don't want to do that because then it's government and then you need more taxes and they're afraid that we're going to go to the oligarchs and say, hey, maybe you should pay your fair share, you dip fucks.
44:34
Exactly.
44:36
And I was going to bring that up too about universal health.
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I get the VA and I will not go get any supplement insurance because even when you go to the VA, they ask you if you have any supplement insurance.
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I say, nope.
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And then sometimes they'll catch the look at me and say, hey, I earned my insurance.
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Or like, well, and I shouldn't say it at the VA, but I'll go... what do they call it? Community care.

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MikeHOST
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So if Republicans want to stay home because they can't vote for a Democrat, by all means, stay the fuck home.
MikeHOST
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Yeah, I'm
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surprised they haven't taken me down when I've been out there protesting.
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But I'll be out there tomorrow night.
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I just want to mention, because I'm sitting here in the parking lot of the dollar store waiting on my wife, but we need some help down there.
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So anybody in Minnesota...
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You know, because they probably have 30, 40 people show up.
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But like I say, they're a half mile down and around the corner from the concentration camp.
MikeHOST
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So, uh, And you're going to be out there fighting the good fight, I assume, all along the way.
MikeHOST
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Yeah, I'm
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surprised they haven't taken me down when I've been out there protesting.
48:57
But I'll be out there tomorrow night.
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You know, I just want to mention, because I'm sitting here in the parking lot of the dollar store waiting on my wife, but we need some help down there.
49:10
So anybody in Minnesota... um you know because they probably have 30 40 people show up but like i say they're a half mile down and around the corner from the concentration camp and myself i'm right across the driveway when they pull out they either gotta go left or right and i'm right across the driveway and tomorrow night it'll be me i've recruited one of my brothers There's going to be a lady down there that helps organize the rest of them that's just tired of being too far away.
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And then my wife will be joining us.
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And I don't know if I like that.
MikeHOST
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And you're going to be out there fighting the good fight, I assume, all along the way.
MikeHOST
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Oh.
2:51
And I says, "Next Thursday, I will be out in front of the detention center.
2:57
And if they arrest me, good for them." Because they tried that same shit in New Jersey, and the governor squashed it because, you know, they...
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That one lady says, "Well, that's all private property." And I says, "That's a highway.
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They have road right of way.
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We can protest on road right of way." They're trying to give us a designated fucking spot to protest.
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You know, I, they're...

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MikeHOST
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Mm-hmm.
MikeHOST
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Oh.
3:13
And I says, "Next Thursday, I will be out in front of the detention center, and if they arrest me, good for them." Because they tried that same shit in New Jersey and the governor squashed it because, you know, they...
3:28
That one lady says, "Well, that's all private property." And I says, "That's a highway.
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They have road right of way.
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We can protest on road right of way." They're trying to give us a designated fucking spot to protest.
3:41
You know, I, there, n- not only the people I was trying to prot- I even felt like my First Amendment w- right was getting squashed with them people.
3:52
And then to make it worse, the people at the other end of the crowd were Trumpers, and I didn't know that.

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MikeHOST
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Mm-hmm.
SiayaADVERTISER
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We're going
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to Newark, New Jersey.
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He says, what for? And I says, ice.
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He says, ah, fuck that.
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Again, he says, and I says, well, of course.
2:29
Well, anyway, he calls me back the next day, and he goes, God, do you know how far that is from my house? And I said, well, Dano, I says, I think it's about four hours.
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And he says, well, obviously, you didn't fucking look.
MikeHOST
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yeah I doubt that's true I've never heard that in any state I know in Minnesota pedestrians always have the right of way pedestrians in the walkway you better fucking stop Minnesota you got a problem the idea that they wouldn't have the right-of-way, that sounds silly.
MikeHOST
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Well, let's talk about what you experienced 'cause you went out to, uh, New Jersey, correct? To do a little protesting.
1:49
Yeah.
1:49
No, I did, I did it kind of like when I went to Washington.
1:53
I called my buddy in Buffalo and I, I got a ticket.
1:58
I first, you know, let's say I went online and asked for donations.
2:03
And I left on Friday and came home on Tuesday morning, and by Tuesday night, previous to me leaving, I quit asking for...
2:15
I, people were bringing me donations.

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MikeHOST
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Uh, the idea that they wouldn't have the right of way, that sounds silly.
MikeHOST
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I don't know.
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They don't want me on there, Mike, I guess is what the deal is.
MikeHOST
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Because
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I can see the comments.
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Can you hear us? Can you hear Mike?
MikeHOST
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howard let me let me make you feel howard let me make you feel at home b 22.
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they don't want me on there mike i guess is what the deal is
TJPANELIST
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Howard, can you hear Mike?
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Can you guys hear me? Yes, I can hear you.
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I can see the comments.
MikeHOST
17:43
Dragging that sorry ass back, and they're going to prosecute that motherfucker.
17:47
But it's neither one of the two that shot Renee Good or Alex Day.
17:53
I'm waiting for them to bring one of them back.
17:56
You know, let's talk about that State Patrol thing where they're helping ICE.
18:00
You know, when I was down at the Whipple building, it was a Hennepin County Sheriff's apartment.
18:08
They were fucking helping ICE that day, too.
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You know, like you say, I like our governor, Mike, but I don't think he got tough enough for the pushback on ICE.

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MikeHOST
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exactly.
MikeHOST
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Yeah, exactly.
58:15
And then I said, so Doze and Donnie came in in January 2025.
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How many farm bankruptcies did we have in the state of Minnesota in 2025? And he put his head down.
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He says, you know, I don't know.
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But he says, I got a funny feeling there's a lot.
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And I says, well, yes and no, Richie.
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I says there were 12.

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MikeHOST
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Were you involved in any federal crimes?
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Which is older, but they're not probably older than me, you know, maybe a couple of years, but anyway, anyway, And I found this through my protesting, Mike.
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And I, you know, I've never been into this until fucking shit for brains got into office.
2:38
And then I, you know, I've been doing the protesting and this.
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Yeah.
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Older white women is where it's at.

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MikeHOST
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Go ahead, Howard.
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That's older.
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Yeah, which is older, but they're not probably older than me, you know, maybe a couple years.
2:01
But anyway, anyway.
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And I found this through my protesting, Mike.
2:08
And I, you know, I've never been into this until fucking shit for brains got into office.
2:15
And then I, you know, I've been doing the protesting and this.
2:18
Yeah.

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MikeHOST
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Go ahead, Howard.
MikeHOST
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you
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know, if they're all the same, you name another president that has 34 felony convictions.
6:34
If they're all the same, name another one that sued the IRS for $10 billion.
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The IRS, that's our money.
6:41
That's our fucking money.
6:44
How many presidents have been found liable for sexual abuse and defamation? One, maybe.
6:51
Maybe only one.

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speaker_0ADVERTISER
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western
MikeHOST
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You
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know, if they're all the same, you name another president that has 34 felony convictions.
6:26
If they're all the same, name another one that sued the IRS for $10 billion.
6:32
The IRS, that's our money.
6:34
That's our fucking money.
6:37
How many presidents have been found liable for sexual abuse and defamation? One, maybe.
6:43
Maybe only one.

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MikeHOST
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There's working people just like you and I and everybody else, and they're struggling with this.
MikeHOST
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So he just ends up being back to where he was when he fucking started.
16:58
And you brought up about the SAVE Act.
17:01
And I want to bring that up quick because that one night we did the podcast and we had my sister on with me.
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And that SAVE Act, the state of South Dakota passed that.
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And then I heard the state of Florida also passed that.
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You know, my sister being a liberal, she's not too fucking happy about that.
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And you did ask, it probably won't affect her because she's got her shit in order.

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MikeHOST
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So just because we haven't seen anything yet doesn't mean we're not going to see anything.
MikeHOST
6:56
So Donald Trump will create a problem and then he will fuck it up and then he'll spend a long time trying to walk back out of it without looking like he's dumb, and that's virtually impossible.
7:08
Well, and he's shipping, what was it, Marines and some Rangers over there.
7:14
He's getting ready to put boots on the ground no matter how many times he tells you that he's not.
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He wouldn't be winding troops up over there if we weren't going to use them.
7:25
Yeah, here's one thing I was trying to dig into the other day.
7:29
You know, he stole them fucking oil tankers from Venezuela.
7:33
And, of course, that didn't go into our treasury.

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MikeHOST
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I mean, they'll be nonviolent, but it will be a lot of people.
MikeHOST
6:34
So Donald Trump will create a problem and then he will fuck it up and then he'll spend a long time trying to walk back out of it without looking like he's dumb, and that's virtually impossible.
6:46
Well, and he's shipping, what was it, Marines and some Rangers over there.
6:52
He's getting ready to put boots on the ground no matter how many times he tells you that he's not.
6:59
He wouldn't be winding troops up over there if we weren't going to use them.
7:03
Yeah, here's one thing I was trying to dig into the other day.
7:07
You know, he stole them fucking oil tankers from Venezuela.
7:11
And, of course, that didn't go into our treasury.

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MikeHOST
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I mean, they'll be nonviolent, but it will be a lot of people.
MikeHOST
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Yeah.
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You know.
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Um, I think, you know, when they need to be their army and their federalities are, you know, awful, awful, uh, good at what they do.
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I know I took my wife down there one time.
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We had to replace a refrigerator.
19:31
So we stayed at this motel, and I think there were 150 Federali pickups there.
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And when they got them pickups, there'd be about six to a pickup because there'd be two in the front seat, and then there'd be four in the back.

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MikeHOST
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And when it does come out, it's going to be devastating to Donald Trump's legacy and and a lot of other motherfuckers in this country and outside this country that were part of this.
MikeHOST
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You're going to get a lot of innocent people killed because that's what cartels will do.
17:22
Yeah, I've been following that a little bit.
17:25
From what I see, Mike, you know, I got a little different opinions than a lot of people.
17:29
But as far as the car, and they're doing a lot of burning, a lot of, you know, it's a lot of actually hints on civilians, you know, as far as cost, money.
17:40
I think that's, as far as the cartel goes, I think that's a big mistake for them.
17:46
Because now, you know, there's going to have to be pretty strong retribution by the government, or the cartel is going to have to try to take over the government, one of the two, you know, or it's going to, it's just, and then when you start hitting that civilian with all them losses, because I don't know how they can gain the recovery of all them vehicles that got burnt, if there's any way of doing that, you piss off the civilians.
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You're as good as caught because, you know, they see everything that you do and every place you go.
speaker_0NARRATOR
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Yeah.
StephanieGUEST
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happening
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today, you know, Trump just got back from Europe here a few days ago.
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And now Louis, I can't say these names.
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Louis started investigation in the, in the human trafficking, uh, France rated Elon Musk's office there and Poland started, uh, uh, investigation into the Epstein, uh, Russia connection.
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So I think they're tired of, you know, the whole European nation over there is tired of Trump too.
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And it's all going to lead back to him.
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You know, we were on a protest.
MikeHOST
30:33
What do you guys think? What do you guys think about that premise?
MikeHOST
27:02
So, Howard, welcome to the live, and maybe you can give us a perspective of what's going on in Minneapolis from the experience in the protest you've been involved in.
27:12
Thanks, Mike.
27:13
Thanks for bringing me up.
27:16
um that tom holman i think he's more dangerous than the guy that they took out of there because you know he took they they filmed him taking a fifty thousand dollar bribe and he'll look you right behind tell you that case got dropped right and and the only reason it got dropped is because of trump so yeah i think it's kind of they've gotten quieter about what they're doing I think we're going to lose another wife before, at least one more before stuff starts changing.
27:51
I think he's more dangerous than what we've had before.
27:55
But the other thing that I've seen happening today, you know, Trump just got back from Europe here a few days ago.
28:01
I can't say these names.
MikeHOST
30:56
What do you guys think? What do you guys think about that premise?
VanessaGUEST
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here.
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But anyway, this was before the vaccine.
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And I was out fishing the other day with an 80-year-old.
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And he's a Trumper, and he said something about the vaccine.
40:08
And I says, yep, I take the, you know, I get the vaccine.
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And I says, I hate it because it makes me sick for a couple days.
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But I almost died from COVID.

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MikeHOST
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And they don't even think about that.
MikeHOST
25:58
We have people that are pretty regular on the panel, but if you're out there listening, request to come up i try to get as many people up to talk to and allow you to give your questions comments or your perceptions so we want you involved and uh we we appreciate that uh when when you do that um do you have any other uh uh protests that you're headed out to howard in the near future
26:22
well we're gonna head over to wilmer and check that out tomorrow for ice and stuff they've been kind of active over there they've stayed out of where my daughter lives but i hear that county doesn't doesn't uh endorse them candy white county is the county that the sheriffs are willing to help them you know and yeah it's kind of this county that i spent a lot of time in so if i get a little bit of trouble over there it might kind of snowball but we'll see what happens
MikeHOST
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You know, we're like any other state, we have our problems, but, uh, by and large, Minnesota is a pretty safe state comparatively.
28:41
Oh, I think so too.
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And we got a good governor in our state, you know, and I just, the way he talks about Somalians being pressed, you know, I don't know any Somalian people personally, but you know, If you come from a good Christian background, which he likes to claim, and you know, how can you talk about other people like that? Somebody asked me about that too.
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And one thing about when you bring people in that your country They are different than what we are.
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And that first generation, you, you, you do rub some, you know, get some raw rubbings and, you know, because for one, they probably come out of a war torn environment.
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They don't trust anybody around them and then they're different than we are.

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