Mm.

Um, and I was really scared when I got laid off, but I was also a little bit relieved.

I was like, "Oh, don't have to go back to this.

Um, but I have to make money, and I wanna do something interesting and fulfilling and meaningful." And for a while, I had been walking a pretty spiritual path a- and trying to do a lot of healing work within myself and, you know, engage with life as the best version of me that I could.

And I had done a bunch of facilitator trainings and been, you know, studying in this capacity as a hobby for probably about seven years at that point.

So I was like, "Okay, I hear you, universe.

If there's ever a time to try this, I guess it's now." Um, so in one part of my life, I was really trying a lot of hosting women's circles for the first time and, and kind of cultivating those spaces within my life.

Okay.