So what first lit the fire in you to fight for people who needed a powerful voice in their corner? Wow.

Good morning.

Lovely to be here, Dawn.

And yes, we have known each other an awful long time.

I suppose my kind of light bulb changing moment was when I was a junior lawyer in a city centre firm in Manchester.

And a lady came into our office asking for a conveyance moving from Germany.

And when my partner, senior partner, asked why she was moving, it was because her husband was a captain in the army.

So for me, I think one of the biggest questions I've got is when you look back at everything and what you've built and what you've fought for, obviously you're going into another huge, tremendous case, what do you hope your legacy will be?