
Herb Nold
Professor of Business Administration at Polk State College; author of books on organizational performance, leadership, and management including "Patterns of Mastery"
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Jun 19, 2026
400: LID Radio Recording with Lukas Michel, Herb Nold, & Johanna Anzengruber
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8:02CaitlinHOST
What were the most interesting or consistent patterns that you guys uncovered?

Herb NoldGUEST
One of the most consistent patterns we see is that organizations primarily have very capable people.

Herb NoldGUEST
But the management of those people and the structure of the organization prevents the organization from allowing the people to maximize their abilities.

Herb NoldGUEST
we see that organizations still use what we call traditional rules-based structures that actually stifles innovation and operating systems that reward control and compliance as opposed to encouraging people to be innovative and thoughtful.

Herb NoldGUEST
And another pattern we see is that high performing organizations do not rely on like one heroic leader.
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16:04CaitlinHOST
Why is this so important?