That's why I work with senior women, because they have this all this beautiful energy and experience and advice and wisdom but they don't know how to put it out in this new day and age and so I love that you're doing that now you came to this because of an interruption in your life can you tell us about that

Yeah, for sure.

So, as I said, I spent a lot of time in Christian ministry.

You know, I'm here in Birmingham, Alabama, so I'm in the deep South.

And so two things that really shaped my life, faith and football.

And I spent time in both.

I spent many years as a pastor.

And when we start to face it and we take those steps, all of a sudden, I think something happens that we go, oh, this isn't as hard as I thought, or it's not as bad as I thought, or, oh my gosh, I'm actually loving this.