but then you have it and like you say that that energy comes back because it's like that weight's been lifted where you're like oh well I'm not holding back anymore you know I'm confident in myself and i've touched on confidence before um to kind of have that conversation um which kind of leads me into you know i think with confidence it's not about being the loudest person in the room i'm quite a loud person anyway um that you probably if you're listening the laugh um from me yeah it's very much well known in the office um but I think sometimes the most confident people are simply the ones who understand themselves do you think that that comes hand in hand with your strength coaching with the confidence

yeah so I've you know I've coached loads of people who self-confidence might actually be a It might be something that, oh, I'm really uncomfortable stepping into this.

This isn't something that gives me loads of energy.

However, that doesn't mean that they don't and can't develop confidence.

It means that it's just not the thing that completely rock and rolls them.

So being able to go, oh, all right, that's where that is, but how do we get that? Working with somebody on an ongoing basis and I can't tell you how absolutely, completely and utterly delighted I am with where they are up to.

Our work, it's been gentle.

So what do you think one thing is that they could do this week to start discovering what the strengths are?