... yeah

The, the part where I'm like, what am I numbing, kind of a thing.

That is an interesting thing- Mm-hmm ... because you did emotions, and obviously were like, "You can talk to me about anything-" Yeah ... and therapy, and all of that stuff.

And- Yeah ... yeah, it's good to know- It's not easy ... from an early age.

But I, again, I don't think it- Yeah ... keeps you from having these, like- Your thing, no ... experiences- Yeah ... as humans.

Yeah.

So it's such an interesting point- Mm-hmm ... that I don't think we're ever gonna get it 100%- Mm-hmm ... right.

No, 'cause people don't talk about that ever.

What separated the people that really succeeded and kept it off from the people that didn't? Was it what we all say? It's it's an inside job, right? What did you see there?

Oh, I mean, 100%.

I would say, first of all, the people who were doing it for themselves, not for attention, not for their mom, not for their spouse, not for anyone.

The people who kept it off had to, number one, do it for themselves, like really, truly want it for who they are.

But then I would say the biggest difference, the biggest difference is Those who were willing to dive in and find out not the reasons why they have extra body fat, right? Because we all know that we have extra body fat.

It's not because they like food.

But really dig in and see what they're trying to cover up.

How do you decide which way to go in those moments?