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Heather Wallander

Heather Wallander

Founder of Disrupting Discrimination, a nonprofit and advocacy project helping employees navigate workplace discrimination, based in Nashville, TN.

Nov 5, 2026

5:29
Can you tell me what Disrupting Discrimination is about and what prompted you to start it?
5:35
Disrupting Discrimination is... still evolving.
5:39
But essentially, one of the things that going through discrimination made me realize was how little support there is for employees when the discrimination is ongoing, when it first starts, during the period when they should be documenting, when they need to be capturing evidence, when they need to be aware of what to watch for, how to determine that discrimination is in fact happening.
5:58
A lot of people know something is off, but don't realize what it is.
6:02
And the organization is designed to help people during those periods because that's before you can get a lawyer.
6:08
And if you tried to file with the EEOC, it's not really going to go anywhere because you don't really have, you don't have evidence yet.
6:14
You don't have proof of harm.
8:06
For someone who went through it, how was that for you when you had no support?
32:35
Did he give you any examples of how you could be more mature?
32:40
I asked him for an example, and what he said to me was that...
32:43
One of the things to know about this role reversal is that I only had a week's notice to process all of this.
32:47
Actually, I didn't even have a week, and I had asked them not to start communicating it until I had a chance to talk to my team on Monday morning.
32:52
That following Monday, I had to communicate to my team, and I was emotional.
32:55
I mentioned, I was still reeling from this decision, and then the fact that I was trying to push back on it.
32:59
When I spoke with them, I still tried to stay professional, but I did say, my boss had told me to say it wasn't my decision.

17 MINS LATER

50:33
Apples to apples, it's not okay

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