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I remember thinking like, "Nobody's even conscious of this." And so I came out of there and I had that, that kind of epiphany moment of, "Oh, I think I could do this, and I think I could do it better." And that's really what got me started in working there.

And then I have a lot of love for, um, CEDIA.

Um, at that time I would go every year and learn a new track each year, you know, from accounting to the seven steps of home theater.

Um-To, to try to learn all the different, different pieces of our industry.

Um, eventually I ended up on the CEDIA board.

Um, you know, so I feel like there's that opportunity where not that you have to forget about the homeowner, like, or, or the, the commercial, you know, the office owner, whatever it is, but, like, those partners are ... who can really help you sort of grow that business and, and make sure that you are, you know, involved in a job.