SureWhat's your, you know, what's your experience been like with, with Crumdale?

[smacks lips] So let's start from how I met you all.

It was with a broker record change with a group that was already with you.

And quite frankly, um, when that happens, we get suspicious, right? Or we wanna ...

We're curious, I guess I'll say we're curious, um, why the group is in this, um, program.

And so we did a lot of due diligence, and I actually had previously met, um, Ben at a different third-party administrator.

And so I, I was able to call him and really talk through with him what, what is this Crumdale, right? What is this program, and how is it benefiting the group? And so I learned a lot from him.

What's the biggest challenge for you as a consultant, you know, in, in this market today? Like, what, what keeps you up at night? What are you worried about, you know? And, and what are you looking for in a real partnership?