And when you just look at it in black and white, I think one of the biggest misgivings about homelessness and housing challenges, oh, people aren't necessarily giving it their all and you can you can work really hard you can squeeze every resource available to you and it still may not be enough given what the numbers show so i think that was one of the really cool parts of the study is just for those who are maybe more inclined to look at just a numbers analysis it's really tough folks even if you're giving it a hundred percent it may just be tougher and then throw in all the gendered nuances heather spoke about and it's a lot

Yeah, exactly, Lana.

Layer in the intersectionality, you know, and I think that you're already and we know that everyone is starting from those starting blocks at far different places on the racetrack.

And yeah, I think for me, too, it's always that sense when we talk about women running.

family, gender diverse people's experience of homelessness.

It's that invisibility piece.

And I think that you ask the average person, you know, probably the average policymaker, probably the average funder.

having to, when you're explaining the work that you do, you know, who comes to your organization? People are sometimes really surprised when I say a lot of the women who come here work.