
Heather Haas
CEO and Owner of ADVISA, a leadership and culture consulting firm based in Carmel, Indiana. Co-host of the "Culture Starts Here" podcast series on The CultureCon Podcast.
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Aug 4, 2026
To Lead is Human | Jason Cochran on Culture Starts Here with Heather Haas and BJ McKay
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Heather HaasGUEST
No, in, in fact, in our experience, you know, starting to add AI into the mix, it just raises the bar for what it takes to be effective as a leader.

Heather HaasGUEST
The stakes are higher because once-- You know, initially it can feel intense because there's the cognitive load of, of trying to do your day job, the things that you've always done, but you've also got this learning curve.

Heather HaasGUEST
You know, I'm, I'm trying to now, uh, do this analysis and put the right prompt into an LLM to, and you're, you're floundering around trying to figure out how to use the tools.

Heather HaasGUEST
So you've got that learning curve on top of, you know, what you're already trying to do, but then it's the and now that some tasks that are more rote or transactional, as some of those things start to come off of a leader's plate, that's kind of when the fear sets in, when it's like, oh gosh, now what's left is I actually have to lead my team, cast a vision, give tough feedback, because that's what can't be replaced.

Heather HaasGUEST
AI can't get in a room with you and your direct report to have the tough conversation for you.
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Jason CochranHOST
And if you had to, to redesign leadership development within this AI era, what are some of the things you're leaning into right now to try and equip leaders?