So what inspired that to happen? What were the dynamics going on at that time?

So I actually have a unusual story for how I opened my firm because prior to working for Siemens Energy, I worked for a smaller firm down in Florida.

I was director of engineering for them.

I had their offices located in Florida.

And a rumor started that I was opening a competition firm.

It was absolutely not true.

But my phone starts blowing up.

What advice would you give them about starting an entrepreneurial journey?

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... who had to cross-collaborate that weren't sitting in the same office together, and so I already knew that it would work.

And so when I started my company, I was like, "I'm not gonna pay for a brick-and-mortar location.

I would rather have that reinvested in my people.

I would rather give my people more benefits, and give them more money, and give them the flexibility and, you know, support them, a- as opposed to just paying for a brick-and-mortar office location." So it worked, and we're still doing it and, you know, we've, we've had a couple of hiccups, I'll be honest with you.

You know, I had one-

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... "Yeah." He's like, "My wife thinks if I'm home, I can work on the to-do list." And I'm like, "No." I'm like, "No, you can't.