Do you think that your occupation contributed to

addiction? Oh, absolutely.

Absolutely.

But I think it started with being adopted as an infant.

And being given up and starting my life in a state of fear and grief.

And, you know, I spent six or eight weeks at a home for unwed mothers in an orphanage with a bunch of other newborn babies who were going through the exact same thing.

And the science tells us that that'll mess up your nervous system.

You probably just want them to leave you alone.

Where do you think it's becoming more evident that the risk is really high? And where do you think that's becoming more evidence that the risk is quite acceptable? If you can, can I give that comparison?

Well, you know, the...

The example that I'm puzzling with right now is pre-interview sorting, right? So figuring out who to interview.

And there are a lot of tools out there that will do that in different ways based on different things.

And they do an amazing job with what they have, but the employer cannot control really what's on those resumes and whether... you're getting an accurate read of of who someone is.

And, you know, you've done recruiting all your life and you can look at a resume and your take on it is is going to be much more complex and nuanced than a machine who's just assessing and matching.

Right.

Explain that argument you made in Chicago to the audience around how this shouldn't just be about AI.