And how do we remember that?

Yeah, I mean, that's one of the things that really struck me for me personally, is even though I keep on using, through the scripture one, Peter, the idea of exile and sojourner, in my head most of the time, I'm not thinking like that.

In my faith relationship with God, I'm not thinking like that, you know.

I'm a New Zealander.

And I think the really difficult thing is we swim in this culture.

We don't see it.

I love that saying, if you want to know about water, don't ask a fish.

I don't feel I have space to kind of have a burden of love.

Wherever you're listening from, we hope you feel encouraged as we open the Bible together and explore what God might be saying to us today.

Kia ora, my name is Heather Amy Bevis and I'm the pastor of Life Groups and Integration here at Windsor Park Baptist.

It's good to be with you today, and we're back into our series, Political Disciples.

It's less than one week before the election finishes, so you'll be paying attention, right? Now, if you know me and my husband, Alan, it wouldn't be long before you realised I generally lean left politically, and he leans right.

We still love each other.

He's just wrong.

So I was teasing him that I could use this opportunity on biblical politics to point out by the very number and the nature of things Jesus said and did supporting the poor and the marginalized, Jesus leans left.

society and not just simply within our church service.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And mum and dad, yeah, I think sincerely Christian, but there were some big gaps in their experience of Jesus and walking in with God.

And I think we had a situation where my sisters got involved with Youth for Christ, got involved with putting on rallies, if you remember.

Rallies were big sort of concerts back in the day.

You'd have non-Christians too.

And mum and dad went along to support them to see what they were doing and met a guy who said, hey, we're running something called a Life in the Spirit Seminar.

How does it apply to us today, I guess? How does that apply to us as far as the wisdom and discernment of using the gifts today? I guess that's what someone's asking.