And how do you take that into account in your work?

So I lived through the experience of the various refugee crises that we've all lived through over the past few decades.

And I will say that public opinion and the opinions of lawmakers are critical because ultimately, When we talk about making AIs into persons, this is a philosophical question.

It's a moral question.

It's a technical, scientific question.

But then it becomes a legal question and a policy question because we want the government to do something about the fact that AI systems might be conscious or they have moral status.

And at that stage, it becomes what does the public think? Because public opinion is important, not just in democracies.

Can you explain a little bit about the context of that work? I'd also, just as a bonus ask, I'd love to hear if you have any thoughts on the much more spicy and contentious question of whether any AI system might ever warrant the right to vote, but we can save that until the more substantive short-term question of speech.

What about just the idea of a good luck charm, that having this thing in your hand or in this, in your possession will bring you good luck?

It, it comes back to confidence, and you'll see it especially in athletes, um, as well as, uh, uh,Going on, people going on stage when there's an chance of something going wrong or a situation where you're not exactly sure if you're up at bat at the base-at a baseball game how it's going to actually play out as it were certain behaviors or lucky uniforms or the way you wind up before you hit or the way you start, for example certain tennis players bounce the tennis ball five times.

If they bounce it six times, they have to start again and bounce it five times.

It's more, the superstition is more a way to calm nerves.

As a result, sometimes people can't get beyond that superstition.

There's actually a story of Pele, the soccer player, who had a lucky jersey that he wore, and he once gave the jersey away to a fan.

Then after the jersey was given away, he went into a scoring slump, so he decided that he needed to have this jersey back immediately.

What, where did that come from?