And I would love to backtrack a little, you know, back to the origin story, because every coach has that moment where they look at their life and say, "Yeah, I guess this is what I'm doing now." Right? So when was that for you, Hazel?

Well, actually, if we go right back to the beginning, when I was a child, I had no idea what I wanted to do when I grew up, and people would ask me, "What are you gonna be when you grow up?" And I had no idea.

But something I was clear about is that I'd always been interested in what makes people tick.

Like, why-- how do people work? How do people and why do people think the way they think? And I think that was because from also being a child, I was very conscious of myself trying to kind of squash down some feelings, emotions at times to make myself fit in or to be a good girl.

And so as I was growing up, I was really conscious of having all these kind of doubts and insecurities about myself that were going on on the inside, whereas on the outside I was doing quite well.

So I think from a young age, I probably had something that we might call imposter phenomenon or imposter syndrome today.

So, um, I didn't know what I wanted to do, went through school, went through university, and when I graduated, I decided because I don't know what to do, I'm gonna take some time to just see what happens.

If you're listening and you don't know, that's a board game that you developed, right, Hazel? Now, how did that started?

And I would love to backtrack a little, you know, back to the origin story, because every coach has that moment where they look at their life and say, "Yeah, I guess this is what I'm doing now." Right? So when was that for you, Hazel?

Well, actually, if we go right back to the beginning, when I was a child, I had no idea what I wanted to do when I grew up, and people would ask me, "What are you gonna be when you grow up?" And I had no idea.

But something I was clear about is that I'd always been interested in what makes people tick.

Like why-- how do people work? How do people and why do people think the way they think? And I think that was because from also being a child, I was very conscious of myself trying to kind of squash down some feelings, emotions at times to make myself fit in or to be a good girl.

And so as I was growing up, I was really conscious of having all these kind of doubts and insecurities about myself that were going on on the inside, whereas on the outside I was doing quite well.

So I think from a young age, I probably had something that we might call imposter phenomenon or imposter syndrome today.

So, um, I didn't know what I wanted to do, went through school, went through university, and when I graduated, I decided because I don't know what to do, I'm gonna take some time to just see what happens.

If you're listening and you don't know, that's a board game that you developed, right, Hazel? Now, how did that started?