There's a difference in the sort of, uh, in the power dynamic in a way, isn't it?

Exactly.

But I think with all of that, it's always sort of stayed as a component to my work with the use of photography and whatnot.

But something with the book, it kind of clicked into gear last year, or the year before actually, when I was doing my archive book that had all my sketchbook pages and collected motifs.

And going through all of that, I was then doing more sketchbook work, and then it was just a point where I thought, "Oh, there's so many good ideas left over here." So then I started to take predominantly anything from my sketchbooks that involved illustration and photography, and then started to gather it.

'Cause I used to have this mentality when I was younger of like, if I'm not willing to destroy it, the idea's not good enough.

Whereas now, with the preciousness of physical media-

[laughs]