Give us some practical go-tos.

Well, practical ta- go-tos, it's like at that point, it's, it, it's really, it's took two things, 'cause it's about how you're approaching the other person and it's about how you're approaching yourself.

And for me, it's like that almost relates somewhat to, to, to the way you talk about embodiment, because actually you're embodying both the other person and yourself in that interrelational space.

So one of the practical takeaways is, like you said, it's a timing thing.

It's like I know that if I have something to bring to my wife, especially if it's delicate, it's awkward, it's tough for me, I know for a fact that in her follicular phase after the bleeding's done, that's gonna go much better for me and for her, [lip smack] and therefore for me again.

[laughs] But there's also stuff, it's like the biggest one is more once you've passed that ovulation stage of the cycle and you're into the luteal phase.

So for the guys who don't know what the luteal phase is, that's the phase after she ovulates and she drops down into the week or two before the period.

Okay

even if sort of alpha inverted commas successful men because it does seem like what often happens is the young bucks all got testosterone and then the guys who actually win seem to keep it and the guys most guys become sort of chubby estrogen you know unsuccessful flabby dad and uh like is it true i mean that's a mean average is it is that also true for sort of guys who actually take care of themselves physically

that's the difference between a whole range of other things that are then happening because for one thing it's like the guys who are going to maintain it really well maybe they're losing up 0.4 percent of the The guys who really drop out are losing 2% a year.

But also the guys who maintain really well, perhaps their androgen receptors are more dense and they're more sensitive.

So they're going to do more with that testosterone as well.

And then you can bring in the whole, you know, you're also born with a certain mindset, new genetics.

So you can bring in all those parts as well that then layer on top of the biology that's playing.

But the main piece is that for men, we lose things gradually, slowly over time.

She's probably a lovely human being.