and my husband could compare notes.

I mean, I do.

I love it.

I was definitely born to be a girl dad.

I love musicals and I love cooking and I love dance parties in the kitchen and all the stupid cheesy things.

But it's definitely weird because like, I was always friends with girls growing up.

I loved my friend girls.

Yeah.

How much was that intentional? How much was that just the way of unearthing the writing was?

All of those are great questions and questions that you have to struggle with when you're writing any story.

The first way I'll answer that is anything that I write is going to be funny.

I don't mean that like I'm awesome and so funny and so talented, but that's just the way that I see the world.

I've written a lot about comedy and I have a PhD in playwriting and I wrote a dissertation about comedy.

I used Augustine's concepts of nature and grace in Pauline theology and Augustine theology to talk about what comedy really is.

Because I used to struggle with comedy growing up in the church that laughs were somehow bad, or if you were laughing that you must be mocking somebody or hurting somebody else.

And has that changed for you?

Mm-hmm.

You know? But...

And in, in some sense, I guess artists and writers and musicians are pointing out the stuff that our brain kinda tells us not to look at because it messes up h- the day.

You know? Like, s- like what happened yesterday, [laughs] like I came outside and there were two worker men who were working on a yard on the other side of my yard, and they were peeking over the fence staring at my tortoise.

That you're really able to engage in your life and enjoy the moments as they are coming by you.

There was def- there were definitely hard times, marriage.

First 10 years of our marriage were really hard.

They were very joyful because we were having children, and we were, you know, living life together, but they were so hard because we had little kids, and I had, was trying to make a career as a writer.