And therefore, it moves me to ask, how successful has our MSME programs been? Frankly speaking, over the last couple of decades, how successful has it been? Or is the metric that I am applying not sufficient?

No, actually, I think the metrics that you are looking at is indeed relevant.

There are other factors, obviously, other matrices that we can use.

But the one that you are using, the transition from nano to micro, from micro to small to medium-sized to large, is one useful metrics that we can use, you know, and, and you are correct in terms of, you know, really questioning whether our strategies and our success rate has really been what it ought to be.

You know, I think though that, that, If you're looking at, if we're analyzing it and really digging deep down into the reasons why it's not as we would like it to be.

And before I even go there, I must say that there has been some success.

There are entrepreneurs that we have worked with that have moved the continuum and have been successful and so on.

But then, as a corollary to that, I'd have to ask you, is it that we, as a region, frankly, as a country, as a region, is it that we are boasting what we call an entrepreneurship surplus, but an enterprise deficit?