Being that you're Dutch, what has been your autistic experience living in the Netherlands? All things are very

well in an NSV when it comes to assisting each other, even in our spare time, we are making appointments and they will give you a needed structure that you want to have in a day and also Dutch people are very direct in comparison to the rest of the world.

So in that direct communication which autistic people understand the best.

So that are the best parts of the Dutch culture for autistic people.

Uh, but, but some, we also see some things that I don't think it's a specific Dutch problem, uh, that are less, uh, uh, finer to ask for example, ideas like, uh, studying at a higher university, the line that that's not a possible for everyone.

and invite autistic people, weekends, CRE effort.

an inaccessible education for most of us.

Yes, I understand that, Hans, because how can you make policy without taking into account lived experience? It's one of the main reasons I started this podcast in 2018, because of the importance of lived experience.