Absolutely.

So I got interstitial cystitis symptoms when I was 15 and And it was at essentially like a semester abroad, but it was in high school.

And it was at a sleepaway camp that was like outdoor focused.

And...

The first like day that we were there, we ended up going on a backpacking trip and I was super stressed about peeing in the woods.

And I remember the first time I like literally took off all of my clothes and my boots and my socks because I was really afraid of peeing on myself.

That kind of started off like this anxiety around peeing and I was kind of out of my comfort zone because I was away from home for four months and I was sleeping in a cabin with a bunch of other girls and so kind of got stressed around like peeing at night and I started to develop anxiety.

But I'm kind of curious, like what how are how are you helping the people that are coming to you? that are struggling with this.