So when did, you know, the idea to move to New York, you know, was it to come here for school and to just sort of like start making your mark in music? Tell me a little bit about what went into that decision.

I think when I was in high school, I probably dreamed of moving to New York.

I very avidly read Downbeat and Jazz Times and, you know, go through with a highlighter and research like, OK, who is Linda Oh? And, you know, who's Larry Grenadier? And checking out like the bass players on the New York scene.

But when I...

By the time I made it through college, I felt honestly a little beat down.

My college music experience was very intense.

And so I think I went into college feeling like I would move to New York right after and do a lot.

What do you give to the next generation or your students that you wish you would have known or have learned earlier on in your career at this stage?