Was that your competitive streak coming through, or was it just the fall?

I don't know.

I just loved it, and I was just like, "I just wanna be really good at it.

I really wanna..." And I'd go to all the auditions and, or, like, all the training.

And 'cause he'd taught spin for longer than me, he was, he was better than me.

He was good.

He was, he already had the, the formulas and the recipes, and when we went into teaching, his classes would always sell out, and mine didn't.

Mm.