Yeah.

Yeah.To me, it's pretty similar back when you used to get on the floor and play at 4:00 in the morning, the 10th game- [laughs]

Yeah

... of, um, of, you know, of what- Countless games ... whatever it was, you know, shops- Yeah ... with y- kids.

It...

You would...

All you'd wanna do is reach for your phone, or all I'd wanna do, sorry, is reach my phone or, or think, "Okay-" I think you can say we there.

Yeah

Yeah.

I...

I mean, I, I wanna say something here [laughs] that just is...

I don't, I'm just not qualified to make a wild hypothesis.

But I'm kind of curious to, I'd love to get your take on it.

So just thinking about kids with the, you know, the, the, the dopamine squirts and the uneven squirting of dopamine that's going on for an ADHD kid, their, their mind's going where their mind's going.

As you said, they don't get to choose their attention.

Yeah

You can ask him if you want.

Oh, yes.

This was on the Hamish and Andy podcast a few weeks ago.

I think it was like it was in the context of everyone's got those moments in their family that kind of makes history.

Do you know what I mean? I feel like unfortunately the other week one of those might have happened where I awoke at about 5 a.m., And I did...

Look, it wasn't a small fart, I admit.

That's okay.

Are you a supporter, I think I've run this past you before, of Kate's Tuscan Treats, a show where Tommy and I organise different cooking experiences in Italy, where Kate comes over and she just makes pasties and pastas and...

Oh,

yes.

This was on the Hamish and Andy podcast a few weeks ago.

I think it was like it was in the context of everyone's got those moments in their family that kind of makes history.

Do you know what I mean? I feel like unfortunately the other week one of those might have happened where I awoke at about 5 a.m., And I did...

Look, it wasn't a small fart, I admit.

That's okay.

None of

They're very young, but I can see that happening.

What's the rule you've got? I mean, everyone kind of has their own gauge.

It is a question.

It's a bridge you cross.

You have to cross eventually.

It's like everything with parenting.

You don't really know what's coming.

Because he's

Not be rude.

And do you know what? For extra points, Andy and I play a game called not lying, um, which is y- you say something that makes it sound like, you know, that, like, you can't do something, but it's...

Like, you know, so for example, like, let's say me and, like, me and Po- if we're, I don't know, playing golf next week, and someone's like, "Oh, hey, um, you know, would love to organize a Zoom." Um-

[laughs]

He was our radio producer for a very long time.

So he was the master of no's.

Like, he was the gatekeeper, and our desk would be next to each other.

And I remember, like, early days, like, someone would offer a guest or something for the show, and he'd call, always call the publicist, like, always be really polite and, like, super professional, and, and I'd...

And there's nothing unique either.

Yeah.

You're not curious anymore.

You're just trying to do the best job fitting in.

And, and so for, for Rando and I together, and then, and then even separately, the, the one thing we've always prided ourselves on is going, there's no guarantees in any of this.

There was never a guarantee when we started.

Like it just, you just don't have any guarantees.

To watch the Olympics or to compete in the Olympics?