Um, So we touched on that, your grandmother being maybe the catalyst to that entrepreneurial spirit, both maybe in you and your sister, right? But talk to me about what were the kind of money conversations you were having at home growing up and how did that translate or not translate when you decided to make this leap from being the W-2 wage earner, carrying the benefits, the things, to all of a sudden not making money? How did that unfold in your brain and in your life? Yeah,

so growing up in the Midwest, I'm one of three children.

My parents were foster parents, and so we'd have six kids in our house at any given time.

My dad is a to-the-spreadsheet budgeter.

I'm sure before spreadsheets were around, he probably hand-wrote everything in lined notebooks.

And my mom is very financially sound.

We're a thrifting family.

So that,