one thing we've been talking about is fears um like odd ones uh ones that have come in since uh we talked about it parrots owls the eyes on potatoes and elastic bands um so that's the kind of weirdness have you are you scared of anything

Mine are all, well, mine's mainstream ones.

So when I was about 18, it was spiders.

Yeah.

And then I went to Australia.

Honestly, this has seriously cured my phobia.

If you have a massive spider phobia, go to Australia.

Are you following the American thing?

no, Hal, I'm just

going to, you know.

I think actually he also spoke to me when he was doing his TV show.

I was working on the Rob Brydon show in like 2010.

And I was there going, are you nervous, Rob? I was writing for him.

He went... you know balls of steel how balls of steel um but uh but yeah i i don't think i necessarily am more nervous than everybody else but i'm just far too i just i tend to unleash far too much on other people and i'm getting better at controlling it because i'm too old to be doing that especially you know with um with when you're the most experienced person on the bill or you've got a support act you're doing a tour show um i i i the nerves are always there for me God, this is so weird.

I've actually discovered something I don't think about anymore because I think myself as a very neurotic person.

Yeah, so she did, she was doing a couple of shows for us and so we were doing sort of business trips where we were trying to get people to buy the shows.

[laughs]

Um, they d- they literally, they have, they have said that to-- They've said, "Oh, God, I hope, please be, please don't leave this one." Um, or, "Please don't break this one up." Um, so I did, uh, uh, uh, it's just, it's been, I f- I've talked to them sometimes-

Yeah, yeah.

But it used to exist.

You know, social mobility, huge number of people became that sort of middle class.

When my dad went to a grammar school, he'd grown up in Grimsby and his parents moved south, and then he went to a grammar school, got to...

First person to go to university.

And that's...

Really?

I mainly...

I've been surrounded by all my closest friends.

I mean, I have close male friends, but probably one of my best friends, Donna, woman, obviously from drama school, um, I pr- but I'm not, I mean, I, I think it's creepy to be a feminist man.

But I real- I realized how much I think I tend to think women are better than men.

If I meet a ma- a young man, particularly a young man behaving really well.

So I think someone like Jude Bellingham, I look at as a really ideal character.

Ladies and gentlemen, and all other genders, Mr. Haljinder Cruttenden.

Yeah.

"Something-" So she was like, "[gasps]" And I said, "Oh, God, I'm so sorry.

No, we're divorcing." "Oh, you're just divorcing." [laughing] Um, but it was-- But, but the, but the second or third thing she said was, um, which, which made me, which did make me laugh so much, was like, "You're gonna be fine.

You'll, you'll find an- you'll find another woman or a man." [laughing] And, um, and, and she was amazing.

And then we walked around, and we went, we went back to her dorm, and she was very emotional- Yeah ... and I was as well.

And it was re-- 'cause Grace, Grace is- How, how long had she been at uni by this point? She'd been at uni a week.

[laughs] I know.

So actually she's left you, but now following you around the country.

Okay.

I didn't, I never lost that sense of, "This is all a bit silly and childish, and I want to be a bit grown up." And I'd say things like, "I want to be a director.

I want to be a writer.

I want to create." Acting, acting seemed a little bit too showy offy, um, so I think I sneered at it a bit.

I think I was a little bit...

I don't know.

And, and also, I, I, the, the world was d- it was tough.

Yeah.