Do you have any insight into why they didn't call more defence witnesses?

Yeah, so that's the thing.

They had a neonatologist on standby that was, I think, helping them and that guy called Dr. Mike Hall.

They had at least one other person who was at the pre-trial meeting who was, I think, not as senior as Mike Hall.

And they didn't call him.

And the way it worked is that you had the prosecution going through every single case week by week.

and the defence could cross-examine, but they weren't allowed to bring their own experts until the end of that whole process.

I've said a hell of a

Mm.

And also composing really took off about the same time, so I'm a composer doing TV work again there.

Separate to all of that, none of that's really what I like doing.

[laughs] While w- From, from about the '90s onwards, I was writing, a screenwriter, and I kind of got a little indie film made in the 2000s as a real micro-budget thing.

And then 2020 it was? It was 2020 I put a thing into a contest, and I found I'd won, uh, which I never won anything in my life.

So that was, that was nice.

For this first episode of a limited series, and that got me a load of...

Mm.