Yeah

... a bit, yeah.

Whether it's sharing back prac- best practice or, or sharing examples.

You know, a lot of the big op- And obviously Jim's great at that, but there's some great stuff running in Dedham with, for what we're doing, um, in, so yeah, there's pockets.

But, you know, sharing that, some of the bigger operators, from listening to Belinda, for example, from PACES, who she often talks about, you know, no, no one really seems to share stuff with us.

Well, 'cause you're PACES Leisure.

And I'll, I've-

So actually there, a trust and a council.