And considering that you've traveled around, you're originally from Germany, and you spent some time at Monash and everything, what would be your advice for junior scientists who would like to contribute to the field?

Yeah, so in junior, you mean? I'm thinking about my oldest son.

He's turning 18.

And he's about to choose what to do after high school.

I think the scientific motivation in him is of course through the excitement at the dinner table.

Just clearly how we handle discussions about whatever biologically or physically or something like that.

I think that is crucial also to keep the excitement going.

Anything that changed your way of thinking about science?