So first of all, maybe to you, Guillaume, if we apply AI to software development, if you think back of the last 12 months before you joined and now you have joined Kuppinger Coal, what has changed in the market and from an adoption standpoint? Is AI and AI support in software development still just a hype topic or is this something that has settled into something structural?

Well, I think in the last 12 months and even slightly before that, now we see the AI becoming a structural topic in software development.

What was indeed hype a few months ago has become now the norm because different things.

First, the product has changed by nature.

What was assistant to coding a few months ago is now agentic development-based, and that's completely a different paradigm.

Then we saw also that what was pushed by developers as early adopters are now older, if I may say, or driven by CTOs.

So are different.

From a market perspective, Guillaume, is this already driving change? Do you see that with the vendors that you're talking to with your day-to-day research? Or is this, I hate that term, but sometimes it's true, is this just compliance theater so far?

So first of all, maybe to you, Guillaume, if we apply AI to software development, if you think back of the last 12 months before you joined and now you have joined Kuppinger Kohl, what has changed in the market and from an adoption standpoint? Is AI and AI support in software development still just a hype topic or is this something that has settled into something structural?

Well, I think in the last 12 months and even slightly before that, now we see the AI becoming a structural topic in software development.

What was indeed hype a few months ago has become now the norm because of different things.

The product has changed by nature.

What was assistant to coding a few months ago is now agentic development-based.

That's completely a different paradigm.

Then we saw also that what was pushed by developers as early adopters are now older, if I may say, or driven by CTOs.

From a market perspective, Guillaume, is this already driving change? Do you see that with the vendors that you're talking to with your day-to-day research? Or is this, I hate that term, but sometimes it's true, is this just compliance theater so far?