the

metal, right? Concrete, metal.

There are heat sources.

You know, your air conditioning units, they're pumping out heat.

You know, all the cars and vehicles are pumping out heat.

But the main thing is the solar radiance is hitting the asphalt, the concrete, and the like.

So it's...

So at the end of the day, they're just making crap up just to what? Regulate us? Just to control us? Because they can't show any benefit to making it colder on Earth.

Your thoughts?

I'm going to maybe just disagree with you a little bit here.

It's not a win for the automakers.

I guess you could say it's a win for the consumers is what it is, because those automakers were just going to pass on there.

They're going to sell cars and trucks no matter what they are.

With this Biden era fuel economy standard, what they were going to do is basically force the automakers to sell cars.

almost entirely electric vehicles, because you can't, it's going to be very, very difficult for gasoline or diesel-powered vehicles.

Give us an update on that, Gregory.

So can you just give us some examples of what is it that makes warming better than, say, cooling?

Let's just step back one moment.

We talk about, I'm often called a climate change denier.

Well, that's just not true.

I'm a scientist.

I'm not denying climate.

What would be unusual is if climate's not changing.

That's the argument, right? Is there any validity to their argument at all? Or how do you feel about that?

So can you just give us some examples of what is it that makes warming better than, say, cooling?

Let's just step back one moment.

We talk about, I'm often called a climate change denier.

Well, that's just not true.

I'm a scientist.

I'm not denying climate.

What would be unusual is if climate's not changing.

That's the argument, right? Is there any validity to their argument at all? Or how do you feel about that?

Uh, we can use that to power data centers, but it would mean more production, more facilities, more infrastructure, right? So tell me what you think ju- just looking at this.

Yeah, well, d- Donald Trump has, has dictated that if you're gonna build an AI data center, you bring your own electricity.

That's simpler said than done.

There's, there's a lot that goes into this.

Um, let's take a look.

If you're gonna create electricity, what are your options? Uh, coal-fired electric is, is wonderful, but you can only do it...

These things are probably prohibitively expensive.

... sitting in better shape than they are.

What's the root cause here? What's the problem?

Forgive me, but it's not the worst it has ever been.

It's fair.

OK.

And if we look at I'm looking right here at a 1912 article from The New York Times, one of the headlines.

It was really bad in 1910.

Going back to July 7th of 1780 was they they documented that was probably the worst ever article.

What do you do about it?

What are they doing? Do, do they think that air condition somehow is gonna make it warmer? Is that their claim?

No, no, no.

Their, their claim is that, uh, you're gonna use more electricity that's generated from fossil fuels, and to do that, that's gonna draw, that's gonna...

You know, to create that using coal or natural gas, then it's gonna emit carbon dioxide, which in their, in their mind is this terrible, uh, molecule.

We call it the miracle molecule, they call it the demon molecule.

And what, what this new book that I've got, A Very Convenient Warming, Joe, my first book, we documented that there is no climate crisis.

In this book, we've gone farther, and I go and we document that not only is there not a climate crisis, but rather Earth's ecosystems, by almost every metric we look at, Joe, are thriving and prospering, and humanity is benefiting from modest warming and more CO2.

It is.

Your thoughts?

It is.

And your viewers will probably learn a few things right here.

Number one, the utilities that are the RTOs, they're called the transmission organizations.

In the Midwest, it's MISO, M-I-S-O.

In the East, the largest is PJM, which is Pennsylvania, Jersey, Maryland.

And these these utilities are.

And they get granted.

Am I correct?

Exactly right.

Under the Obama EPA, Environmental Protection Agency, they passed what was called the endangerment finding.

They found that carbon dioxide, which I call the miracle molecule, they call it the demon molecule, they ruled that CO2 is a pollutant and such they could regulate it.

And boy, have they.

If your viewers right now look around, they're probably in their living room, look around.

Everything that uses the electricity is now regulated by this.

But meanwhile, it was damaging about 10 to 20 parts on your car.

All right, so tell us about the significance of all this, Gregory.

Well, this is huge.

The other big one was he's getting us out of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

And as you're aware, I was accepted as an expert for the most recent IPCC report.

But the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change was enacted and voted on in 1992 under George H.W. Bush, his administration.

whatever you think, you know, the Bush administration didn't hold as conservative values as what we all would have liked, and they got us into it.

It was voted on and approved by the United States Senate, so it's an official treaty.

I can't find one in the stores anymore.

A lot of people are reversing course on climate change.

The biggest name, of course, was Bill Gates.

He came out and he said, I think it's more important that we focus on improving people's lives, moving people out of poverty, providing good lives, good health, good medicine, good health systems for people than it is to spend trillions of dollars.

He didn't say a non-existent problem.

I call it a non-existent problem, but spending trillions of dollars to try and keep the Earth from warming another tenth or so degree of warming from additional CO2.

In fact, he said, this was just last week, and it was a lengthy, I think, 17-page memo that he wrote ahead of the Council of Parties meeting in Brazil, which they have every year, the climate alarmists all get together and wet the bed together at the same time, these climate bedwetters.

But what he said was, you know, if you ask me, would I sacrifice... a tenth of a degree of warming or eradicate malaria.

gas and we need to frack.