So talk to me, Greg, about how you came up with the idea or what made you want to create this app.

Yeah, I had the idea for Gathering because...

I would travel a lot.

And so I'd go to London, I'd go to Boston, I'd go all over.

I loved to travel.

And it was always really interesting to see not only what the local gay bar or something was, but where are there interesting events? And I started finding all of these interesting events as I was out and about.

And two things really inspired me for it.

sale is getting ready to end and we're back to regular prices Would you ever go to Latin America and Asia and do that? I mean, Brazil has a huge gay population.

That's right.

You come, you receive a meal without cost.

Another man has paid that for you previously, and I just love what that means relative to, um, the welcoming environment that it creates.

And, you know, there's no c- uh, there's a real cost to come to [laughs] come to Jesus, but He's paid it all.

And so I just love that we get to bring men in, and we get to treat them to something on their very first visit.

And so, um, yeah, I, I just, I knew that you were called, and I knew that it wouldn't be a problem.

And, um, I've, I've had the privilege to be involved in enough ministries and see God's provision.

Sure.

Do you sense that the bankers are bringing a higher proportion of the overall... audience this time around or investors in the room? How else do you think about the the audience composition?

Sure.

So it's one of those things where it's difficult to put everybody in a neat little bucket sometimes.

But we for the purpose of our big picture statistics, we count wealth management firms and investment houses in the same general arena as financial institutions.

And many banks obviously have wealth management arms.

There's a lot of overlap in terms of types of industry or types of companies within that industry.

The other kind of side of investors is the venture capitalists, the folks who are actually actively investing in the companies themselves.

I think it's the Wednesday night and then also a breakfast on Friday.

I guess our friends at Circle are helping you put that together, right?

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

We're really thankful to Nick and the Circle team for helping to partner with us on this.

And they're sending a lot of really cool companies our way to help make that session a success.

This is one of those things that kind of started organically.

We noticed a little bit after the pandemic, we started getting a lot more credit unions reaching out, raising their hands and just buying tickets.

And so we thought, let's do something for that group to give them a little bit of extra attention.

It's great to see the young folks, but it's nice to see who's got new ideas among the, you know, the the battleships out there