So he basically issued a declaration of jihad later on to expel the infidels on the Arabian Peninsula and start getting a lot of these jihadis who fought in Bosnia, who fought in Afghanistan, and convincing them that this is a real fight.

I think we really thought that al-Qaeda became a threat to the United States when we heard its leader, bin Laden, give these fatwas, these warnings, these declarations.

Fox News Senior Foreign Affairs Correspondent Greg Palcott.

Often in interviews, people that I know met with him and talked with him in his cave.

And by about 97, 98, the United States was number one on his bad guy list.

He basically started to talk about