Right

... still in their shoes, right? And I'll always see myself as a coach.

I've talked about that.

Um, but I think just the more reps with them to really identify, like, what their challenges are, and I think in the ever-changing landscape of the NCAA and, and how coaches are being pulled in different directions, and really just trying to understand the, yeah, the difficulty of where they're at and looking through that lens.

And so when we're having conversations or just finding ways that we can support, um, and that can be in any number of areas.

Like, it just...

So we're being just really open-minded to, like, okay, how can we help? Um, what, what would I have wanted? What am I-- What are the common themes that we're hearing? How do we address some of that? Um, and that's a- always kind of a moving target, but-

Yeah.