Greg Chasson
Clinical psychologist, board-certified cognitive-behavioral therapist, and Associate Professor at the University of Chicago specializing in perfectionism and obsessive-compulsive-related disorders.
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Jul 20, 2026
Joan HermanHOST
What would you say to that someone to get started moving into that Goldilocks zone?
Greg ChassonGUEST
I would actually hand them Chapter 5 of my book, and I would say this is a framework that I use for thinking about approaching tasks, such as starting a business.
Greg ChassonGUEST
It's really based on values and effort, and I call it emphasis framework because I see there being three broad areas Now, they're not mutually exclusive.
Greg ChassonGUEST
But the first approach would be emphasis A, which is to lean in with 110%, give it your all, do everything you possibly can.
Joan HermanHOST
And so how important is it to learn to accept that even when you do your best, it may not work out the way you planned?