Was there like a point where you felt like you had to make a decision between music and voice work, like for a career path? Or was it easy enough to just say, oh, I'll go for both? Why stop doing one or the other?

Well, I did do on camera acting for a while when I first moved to L.A. and that was going great.

Like I I think I got like the first seven things I auditioned for.

I got them all like all these on camera things.

But I also the voiceover started heating up and I could do like three or four voiceover things in the same day.

time span that I could do one episode of a sitcom or something.

So I remember that was a big decision because I remember having to get rid of my...

Along the way, I mean, was there much time to play live music out, either solo or with a band, before you started making records in the studio? Or did you just do kind of all of that, too? Still performing live, or?