
Grant Rumley
Political scientist
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Jun 8, 2026
The AI Race in the Middle East, with Avner Golov and Grant Rumley
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David MakovskyHOST
Let me ask you, Grant, which is also, I don't know, are data centers, are we gonna see more of this underground in hardened locations as a result of this war? And the lessons of this war in terms of how are the US, the Gulf, and Israel do you think will see AI as contributing to advancing the, the geostrategic position of each country?

Grant RumleyGUEST
We've known for a while, as Avner pointed out, that AI has been really, I think, the cornerstone for a lot of these Gulf states' multi-year development aspirational plans, right? These countries are preparing for a post hydrocarbon reality.

Grant RumleyGUEST
They enjoy the geostrategic importance that being major energy exporters gives them on the global stage, and they want to have that sort of leverage and seat at the table in the future.

Grant RumleyGUEST
And I think they rightly assess that the way to do that is to diversify their economies and create this strategic important node for one of the biggest demand industries likely in our future here in the AI critical tech sphere.

Grant RumleyGUEST
You have to have advanced chips, you have to have data centers to store those chips, and you have to have the power to run the data centers.
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