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Grant Lawson

Sound recordist

Jul 7, 2026

16:12
right they do serve a role they are supposed to do things but they often don't do them very well so if we understand if the brokers understand that the fmcsa you know isn't isn't watching the hen house very well then it sort of behooves you to be extra careful about stuff but they are not
16:33
I mean, yeah, you nailed it, right? You nailed it.
16:36
So, I mean, here's how we got to where we are today.
16:40
Gordon, you know this, is that it became the Wild West.
16:44
The trucking industry became the Wild West.
16:46
We had this explosion.
16:48
I mean, an absolute explosion in the number of motor carriers, new motor carriers, and the explosion of these – fraudulent truck driving schools and the number of basically, you know, inept fraudulent truck drivers that became part of the trucking industry market in the last, let's just call it 10 years, but, you know, especially the last five, six years, right.

8 MINS LATER

25:23
So what are the mechanics of determining a failure on the part of a broker or 3PL or some other kind of intermediary? What would you actually look for amongst their paperwork or documentation or behavior systems as they're trying to find carriers? What is the thing?

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