A new day, a new way, and new eyes to see it all.

It happened in, uh, the end of 1967.

I was, uh, visiting Joni in Los Angeles at, at, um, Lookout Mountain.

When I got to her parking lot there, I heard other voices, and that was, uh, a little upsetting for me because I just wanted to spend time with Joni.

Uh, but it was David and Stephen, and they were having dinner with Joni.

So after dinner, and Joni even remembers what we had for dinner, it was salmon [laughs].

Uh, uh, after dinner, um, David said, "Hey, Stephen, play, uh, play Willy, that song we're doing." Now then, The Byrds had thrown David out.

With his references to, to, you know, Ontario, it's a song that sort of proudly proclaims his Canadian roots.

First of all, is there even a remote speck of truth to any of that stuff? Obviously, he wasn't an operative, but where did that stuff bubble up from? Do you know?

I think it must have come from, you know, trying to emulate his father.

You know, his father was, as far as we know, you know, part of the shadow on the belly of American politics.

And I think he was trying to, you know, emulate his father.

And I think that's a lot of it.

And a lot of it is because he's always been the leader.

He wanted to be the leader of the Buffalo Springfield, although Neil was in the way.

tell me what happened there

Another song from the most recent album that I love because, to me, it captures the other side of Graham Nash that you've always done so well, and that's right, beautiful, intimate love songs, and Fall of Your Heart is just fantastic.

My mother once told me, Your heart knows what's good.

Your heart knows what's bad.

You have to make the right choices.

But she said, in your case, I believe you're a good person and just follow your heart.

And that's what I've done all my life.

When I've been, you know, when I was in the Hollies and I heard me and David and Steven sing together, I had a choice.

What do you see out there? Do you look at the world differently as a photographer?

Again, I think you're just firing on all cylinders and coming up with just astounding work that is

timeless.

I appreciate that.

Atlantic didn't put any kind of promotion or any energy behind it.

They always want a CSN or CSNY record.

And one of the people that were there in the meeting when somebody from Atlantic said, no, no, let's just shit on it.

at all because this was a big big thing for you as far as a character molding event

in your life Absolutely.

Listen in as he reminisces with Alan about his indescribable ability to see things differently, and then having the courage to push the trigger.

My father turned me on to the magic of photography.

I have never, ever in my life forgotten that moment.

It was incredibly important to me.

Uh, we lived in a very poor house.

Uh, it, it was called a two up, two down, meaning two very small rooms downstairs and two small rooms upstairs.

My father would take pictures of me and my sister at the local zoo.

So, without further ado.

Is there any one particular story of your time? I know it's hard to distill down with Pierre that stands out to you.

I think every time that he came, he would come to see me no matter where it was.

You know, particularly if I or we were playing in your area.

But once he came out to California to see us, I mean, you know, he had family in California.

And I know that he probably went to see them too.

But he came to see us.

And what was important about Pierre is this.

Fantastic.