What did that journey look like?

Yeah, it's certainly been a long and winding journey.

You know, when I first came out of engineering school at the U of A, my very first job was with the city of Edmonton with the water department.

So now that group's called EPCOR.

And I was an operations engineer at a water treatment plant.

The one, those of you who know Edmonton, is kind of right down by the ball diamond.

Great hands-on experience.

Tell us about the values-driven culture of Stantec and how you made efforts to rectify the bad experience you had that forced you to leave once you got into the CEO chair.