I mean, what were you initially? Were you a classical guitarist, a jazz-

I was, I was a classical player, but I, you know, I, I always liked to improvise and create my own music and, and I think that's one of the reasons Farid and I get along musically so well because we, we write together, we arrange music together, and, you know, I play a lot of, a lot of solo shows.

There's a lot of different projects, and it's kind of like a language.

O- O- Once you know one language, um, you learn another one and it's, you know, the other one is more fun, then you keep adding and adding and, and it just makes li- life more exciting that way.

So, uh, y- you guys have a piece in your set called Indo-Balkan, and you have a record called Indo-Balkan, and, you know, that seems to kinda sum up the, the global aesthetic of this duo.

Yeah, absolutely.

It took us a while to, to kind of put the words together why we are playing together, but the, the whole, you know, Indian music and the Balkan music have actually more in common than not, uh, in terms of the meter and the modes and, um, you know, it, it...

You know, the gypsies came all the way from Rajasthan, stayed in-