Does story in and of itself have... a quality or is it just a

tool? You know, it's something that I consider in a slightly different context.

Okay.

Martin Luther King, basically citing Niebuhr, my favorite quotes of all time is that the arc of the moral universe is long but bends towards justice.

And I love that quote.

It's poetic.

I get it.

What was happening from a storytelling perspective from you internally that made that moment something worthwhile?

What's a story that was on your show, whether it's Snap or Spooked recently, that you feel like you learned something from and changed your mind about something?

We just told a story, recently told a story about mermaids.

Hanya, there are a group of women in Korea who can hold their breath for upwards of 15 minutes and dive and do their thing and get very rare sea life and bring it to the surface.

And I, number one, I didn't believe it.

It sounds like you're describing dolphins.

Right.

Yeah, it's crazy.

You know what I mean?

Mm.

Then they pull me out of school in October 'cause we're going to the Feast of Tabernacles, which means we load up our Country Squire station wagon, and we get in.

We start driving to, we call it the festival location, which is different sites all over the country.

The closest one to where we are in Michigan was usually in Wisconsin, Wisconsin Dells area.

There's a big place in Wisconsin Dells that's a resort community.

So before you start driving, you have to put a green sticker on your car that comes directly from headquarters in Pasadena, California, that lets you know that you have all privileges to go to this festival or whatever it may be.

You put that on your car, and you start driving.

Right.