He has thoughts based on calls he gets.

Every day, I mean, I get calls and emails concerning people cannot make their basic necessities covered, you know, if it's their shelter cost, if it's their, you know, food budget at all, utilities sort of thing.

Again, like you were saying about kids going back with parents, you know, being stretched on those budgets at all.

And I think effectively there's a lot of people hurting, you know, food banks are at record.

You see cheer at all.

I mean, the shelters are overcapacitated and...

Somebody really needs to take some leadership on this particular file because it's affecting people, it's not just physical but their mental health.

What are your thoughts there?