I could only imagine the horror that Helen Haynes experienced as it unfolded.

Yeah, look, you can't know what's going to happen because in very similar circumstances with me, I was reversed into and then they stopped and obviously it was a shootout.

Then they reversed back at me again.

Mm-hm.

you know, the second hit was bigger than the first and ended up under the car.

So you've been hit once, but then when you get another one, you see it coming, you know, that it's not going to end well.

And the reality of it is you have to, you know, know that the outcome is going to be terrible.

Yeah.

So you're suggesting that some who are government employees with databases that are supposed to be secret are fuelling this gangland war? Chris,

there was a police officer allegedly charged...

I'll be careful what I say, but there's two current matters at the moment with two former police officers that were, in fact, one's been convicted of it, and they were divulging information to the crime gangs.

And research shows that right back into the 90s, some of these crime families grabbed clean-skinned family members and why clean skin they've never been in trouble and made them join the police force they infiltrate the system then they have this is this is how it works chris this is red hot off the press i i'm a crime figure i ring my planted police officer and pretend to give information about say let's just do it billy blogs is selling drugs at the sefton hotel So that then allows that constable to open the system and read the address of that person, photograph it with a phone, and then supply it to a crime family.

And that's what just happened with this one particular officer that was...

He's been charged with 47 counts of it, right? So this is how...

They're turning up, and unfortunately for these innocent victims, the crime gangs had got the old address where maybe the crook lived.

What criminal activities do they specialise in and are they losing their power to the Coconut Cartel?

Is this coconut cartel actually located offshore, as I'm hearing?

It is.

What happened, Chris, I don't know if you recall, but there was an intercept of what they call a kill car over at Milperra, and the police task force took them out as they were en route to do a drive-by.

So it was full of the cartel members then, and they obtained an amazing amount of information out of that because they caught them before they did the crime, so they had them with all the phones and all the equipment and all the information, right, and the location.

So...

A lot of intelligence has come out of that and it's caused the coconut cartel to flee Australia.

That's my take on it.

So you're suggesting that some who are government employees with databases that are supposed to be secret are fuelling this gangland war? Chris,

What was next for you there? Did you see that out? No,

I didn't.

I went straight off the rails as a young 17-year-old and decided to stay on a surfing holiday a little bit too long.

Came back and got called up to the commander's office for the Air Force cadets to hand everything back in.

And school was over.

And it was like, wow, what am I going to do now? It was like the biggest kick in the guts.

I was probably a little bit cocky and thought that I'd get away with it and be, you know, they'll have me back at school in open arms.

Yeah, and it's great for you to show that you're grateful for the others that have contributed to your success.